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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 28, 2009 10:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite version of (GD) NFA

I can see why CPW likes that '66 NFA - though it sounds to me like a copy of the Stones' version. I prefer when they started doing their own jammed-up version.

NFA didn't take long to become a monster jam-song in the Dead's shows....2-14-70 is a mind-blower. Lots of great versions from early '70 - for instance 5/1, 5/6, 5/7, 6/24 - and then of course, the three Fillmore East NFAs from September are essential, to hear how different it could be three nights in a row.

After Oct '70, when they introduce GDTRFB, Not Fade Away gets drastically reduced, so I don't have strong faves after that until Keith joins....then in fall '71 we start getting some monster NFAs again.

I agree with the others that 11-15-71 is the King NFA of '71....BUT! also a contender is 10-31-71 (a Dick's Pick), which is awesome - Jerry's playing is divine.

NFA gets more 'standardized' in '72 - sometimes they stretch it out, sometimes it just gets the standard solos. One key version is 7-16-72 with lots of extra jamming. (I recall 9-3-72 also having an unusually long NFA.)

BUT! Perhaps the best NFA of '72 is from 11-24-72, a show nobody ever mentions - but if you haven't checked out this NFA, now's the time:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-11-24.sbd.gardner.5288.sbeok.shnf

For some reason NFA became rather rare in '73, done only a few times that year...of course the summer shows with the Allmans are the highlights.
Later in the year (9/8/73, 12/1/73) we start getting the more mellow, lengthy NFAs that would show up in '74...some distinctive versions include 6/30/74 (hot!), and 9/10/74 (amazing - gets the "11/15/71 award" for '74, was on a Dick's Pick).

'76, fittingly enough, sees NFA return in a sweet, laid-back guise - lots of rather hypnotic NFAs from this year.
'77 has some famous versions - they've beefed it up, emphasize the groove more, and Jerry gets hairier with his solos - for instance I like the one from Cornell. Some of the big '77 NFAs, though, seem to grind on & on without getting anyplace in particular...

Anyway, I don't have time to go on, but I hope this had enough recommendations to start with....

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Aug 29, 2009 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite version of (GD) NFA

LiA, do you have one of your lists handy of what versions of NFA>GDTRFB>NFA contain the China Cat jam? I know about a few of them, but a list would be nice. There were a few in the fall of '71, and I always love to hear how they worked that little jam in.

One more rec I have to mention though is the NFA>GDTRFB coming out of the "motorcycle space" on 6/4/78. They do a monster "Nobody's Fault" jam during NFA I have never heard associated with the song again.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-06-04.sbd.cantor.miller.94407.sbeok.flac16

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2009-08-29 20:02:24

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 29, 2009 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite version of (GD) NFA

Why, yes I do....

These are the 1971 Not Fade Aways with China Cat jams in them (I've probably missed a couple) -

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-10-27.ashley-bertha.32869.sbeok.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-11-15.sbd.cotsman.12438.sbeok.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-11-20.sbd.miller.92908.sbeok.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-05.prefm.miller.3391.sbeok.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-10.sbd.yerys.1311.sbeok.shnf
and a later one - http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-04-14.sbd.hurwitt.8828.sbeok.shnf

And, for the insatiable, here are a few jams in 1970 that also have the China Cat riff - a couple of them are NFAs:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-01-03.sbd.ret.19440.sbeok.shnf - in the Alligator jam (briefly, China Cat jam>Bid You Goodnight riff)
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1970-03-21.late.aud.lee.pcrp.21779.shnf - in the Not Fade Away (Stephen riff>China Cat jam)
http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-05-07.aud.weiner-gdADT04.5439.sbefail.shnf - in the Lovelight (a great jam that includes the Stephen riff>Darkness riff>jam>China Cat jam)
http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-06-04.sbd.miller.12135.sbeok.shnf - in the Midnight Hour (briefly)
And the 9-19-70 Not Fade Away, of course....

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 29, 2009 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite version of (GD) NFA

Cool! Thanks! (I love that DS from 9-19 that has it...)

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 29, 2009 7:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite version of (GD) NFA

I know what you mean by the 77>early 80's NFAs grinding on, but at least they were jamming, and it often created a hypnotic, narcotic, feel . When it got placed in the final post Throwing Stones, end of concert clap along , the jamming gets cuts to a minimum ( yes there are some exception). At first it was kind of novel, going back to the Buddy Holly version . But It very soon outlasted it's welcome . My faves are those late 71 ones mentioned, where both NFA, and GDTRFB are taken for long drives , AND they still have the rootsy, country feel, that gets lost somewhere in the 80's .

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Aug 29, 2009 10:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: favorite version of (GD) NFA

For my money it's from the Dick's Picks show of 12/29/77

NFA>PLAYIN' IN THE BAND REPRISE.

Absolutely serious hardcore rock and roll....laser focused...listen to Jerry practically spit out the "I tried to show you but you drive me BACK!" line...Jamming is unreal.